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Scot and Sue are joined by award-winning author and professor of political science at Johns Hopkins University, Hahrie Han, to discuss her new book Undivided: The Quest for Racial Solidarity in an American Church. In the book, Hahrie visits a megachurch in Ohio that as it is going through a six week program, developed by church leaders and designed to cultivate meaningful relationships across race and to foster collective anti racist action. What Hahrie learns from the congregation and the participants she follows tells a powerful story about politics in the US and what we can do to protect democracy.